If it seems like I'm making fun of the BBC Sherlock in this comic, I apologize but the jokes are right there in their differences. I do feel that Joan tends to get slightly more respect than John in the partner dynamic tho.
That juxtaposition is interesting... It seems Elementary has the more likeable characters, progressive ideas, and gender/ethnic diversity... Meh, typical American show, so tired of those.
I am accepting of Joan, given my liking for Lucy Liu, feminist tendencies, and novelty value. I have always been interested in seeing Sherlock working with a female partner.
Unfortunately, I don't find the actor playing the American Sherlock charismatic or sexy. On the contrary, he looks disgusting, the tattoos don't help, and reminiscent of a hobbo. Point in favor goes to Benedict Cumberbatch!
Having seen BBC's Sherlock first, I'm biased to enjoy it more, the acting is superb, yes there's a lack of diversity but I never cared, and Sherlock is not as apologetic and docile as his American counterpart, making the BBC Sherlock truer to the source material.
Have seen some your comics when I first started watching Elementary, was taking another look today, love them. I have never seen Sherlock D: (since I have never read the books I guess I don't have to care for accuracy yay 8D ) Mostly cause I don't get it on my cable plan, and also a little cause of the hype (I also dislike Dr. Who *LE GASP*). Not that I don't want to see it. I love how Miller's Sherlock shows he cares for Joan and a few other people, although still being stubborn "I'm never gonna be nice", and he's haaaaaaaaaawt hahah with his hairy tattoed body and physical mannerisms, yet Cumberlock does nothing for me physically. BBC Sherlock's panels in this one are funnier though, I wonder if he's as dramatic as he seems, and well I enjoy Martin Freeman in general. It's weird but I did kinda compare Holmes to Dr. House since House was so inspired by him (which would make Wilson my favorite Watson in a way). Miller's Sherlock is actually (for my surprise) NICER than House ever was, which I'm thankful for cause after 6 seasons of House I couldn't stand him. Though I thought he did the depressed antisocial addict thing terrifically (I identified with his depression a lot).
So true, as much as I love BBC Sherlock I did felt most of humour came from Sherlock insulting everyone including John who often just gets angry a bit and give up.
In Elementary, Sherlock insults someone and very likely Joan will say something back, and his bad decisions do indeed get him consequences (ie. getting punched or losing a partnership with a good detective)
Awww...so cute and funny! I have yet to watch Elementary, but judging by your drawings, I'm going to miss the dapper Sherlock from Sherlock. XD I'll still give it a chance, of course--I never judge something 'til I've tried it firsthand.
I have to say that I think the Sherlock version of Sherlock Holmes is EXTREMELY close to the kind of personality he has in the books, though. He is a total know-it-all, he comes across as using Watson's opinions as tests to see how an "ordinary" person sees things, etc, at least at first. He gets bored easily, and he can't handle being wrong--if he's wrong, something about how the case was solved is wrong, in his eyes.
I'll still check out Elementary, but Sherlock is a tough act to follow.
I agree...and here is my reasoning: Sherlock is a lot closer to the actual ACD writings...the charcaterizations, the stories...everything about the show reminds me of what I read as a child...ah, nostalgia...Elementary is nice, but I still can't get over Watson being female...as a female, I know that's a strange thing, but it is true...The relationship between Watson and Holmes is its own animal and while changing the gender should not change my feelings on that relatinoship, it does...Also, I just SO have a thing for BC and MF...JLM really does nothing for me as an actor or as Holmes...just my opinion....
No...just perhaps a little slow? lol...j/k...Actually, I speak in acronym/initial speak so much throughout the day that I do it without thinking quite often...so I do apologize if I confuzzled you...I confuse my roommates daily the same way.
If you don't mind me asking, I am just curious. Why is the BBC version better? Personally I love both equally to bits; but I am curious why do you think one is better then the other. Now I'm sorry if this seems rude or anything like that, and if it is I am sorry. I just would like to hear your opinion.
Understandable, Personally I like Elementary for their way of showing Sherlock in this manner, more calm and quiet and how they tied Watson into, also how it's more calm and slowed down a bit, that's why I love it and with BBC Sherlock I love it because, For how full of action it is and how Sherlock is always rushing about. I also love his relationship with John, and how it has grown. Now that's just my personal opinion; But thank you for sharing yours! I hope you have a great day!
You are absolutely correct. I've watched both series. John is little bit more than a mascot or a pet to keep Sherlock company and be amazed by his feats. Joan, while at times is impressed by Sherlock, still comes to her own conclusions that contribute to the case. She is knowledgeable and capable on her own. Not to mention she was a competent surgeon in her own right before the series started. While Sherlock might take the lead in their investigations, I find both he and Joan are very much equals.
While I applaud you for the comic, and compering both series in their own ways, sadly I wasn't really blown away by Elementary after giving it a short watch. Seriously, I watched the 1st and 2nd episode and wasn't blown away, then again some people said it's 'unfair' to judge this show just by the 1st and 2nd episode, and that it gets much better along the way (which I doubt, since if the 1st and 2nd ep's murders amounted to a game of Clue, the rest will likely be as laughable as watching an episode of Scooby-doo or Case Closed.)
While it's true both shows have their strong and weak points, whenever I hear "Elementary is better!" I really wanna punch the person so damn hard, then again I also have the same reaction when someone say's "BBC Sherlock is better!" ...mm..kinda a weird paradox.
Elementary takes a little more time to get into than Sherlock.
25 minutes of television aren't as long as 1 hour 15 minutes specials, but if you give yourself some time to digest each story, you will understand the beauty behind elementary.
The layers behind Sherlock are pealed back at a much slower rate in the America version. He's really unhappy, struggles with addiction, struggles with lonliness, and misses the woman and his brother. At the same time, it's focused on mysteries and crimes which is what Sherlock Holmes is really all about.
Yeaah, that's I'm gonna call out and call out big time. WHile it's nice we get mot interaction with SHerlock and Watson in Elementary (though I don't see the point of having Watson be a woman, aside from just using Lucy Liu's appeal level for it), the whole "Sherlock had a relationship with Adler/Moriarty" can kiss my ass. Not only is that stupid, but it just comes off as sexist, hell you could have just removed the entire 'romance' subplot crap and made it about how SHerlock faces Moriarty, since he threatens her organization. Instead, no we course have to have a dumb romance subplot. Frankly, what is it with American TV shows having to have any good looking male or female be attracted to one another or even involve romance, what we can't have a character who say is gay or asexual as our main protagonist. Hell, Sherlock himself is pretty much an asexual character, he was a Dandy man in the books, but he never had any interest in a relationship 'cause he found that stuff boring and mostly was interested in solving crime cases and finding challenges. But, ofcourse we can't have THAT in a American TV show, nope he has to have a hot woman lover.
Could be worse. At least Sherlock and Joan aren't an item. I think your arguments are perfectly valid, but they don't stop me from enjoying the show. I think it's endearing how Sherlock slowly began to let Joan into his life. He said "her name was Irene" and went to bed. That show does a good job representing someone who is anti-social. The elementary sherlock is very human to me and that's why i love him.
I didn't say it was meant to turn you away from the show, just saying these are the issues I have with Elementary that makes it hard for me to enjoy (still not helped by how piss easy the crime scenes are), it's nice to have more interactions between the two. Also, I'd argue on how well it represents someone who's anti-social, since I'm like that.
When has the American media or Hollywood ever represented anyone well? Hell, should I remind you of CSI ep's which talked about geek stuff like video games, or table top RPG's and how people who play 'em are pretty much freaks of nature, how you'd have some crime shows which shows Gay people as vapid or prissy.